Is it safe to say that China is at least 30 years ahead of India?
08.06.2025 01:42

Not many will agree with Zeno, because he is a Mlechha Yavana Barbarian.đđafter all.
Anyone, who looks behind to see whoâs on their heel. will befall the same fate as all the suitors of the lovely Atalanta in Greek Mythology, who was the fastest runner in the world.
ECOSYSTEMS where the citizens experiences need to improve.
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India has a space program that seeks to reap military as well as civilian benefits in this so-called race which there is none.
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Nemawashi: Small incremental improvements, that make your daily experiences better in whatever âEcosystemâ, you have to interact with.
Any suitor, who wanted to win speedy Atalantaâs hand would have to beat her in a race and if they lose, they would lose their heads.
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So, if China were at all worried, like Hippomenes, that India would overtake them in this âraceâ that they are not worried about, then they will like Hippomenes toss some thorny crab apples* to distract the nattering classes in India.
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Here it is an Eco-system where both Dung and Vishwa seem to be competing for the race to the bottom of the well. đ
Petty Corruption. My mainland Chinese American friends, who travel back and forth to China assure me that petty Corruption is well and alive in China and the ranking by Transparency International, which monitors âperception of corruptionâ in nations, ranks both India and China about equal. So that seems about right. đ
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Viswa Parihasa and Dung Poo Pew Parodox per Zeno
I generally donât place a time scale on who is ahead or who is behind and by how many years in this âGame of Nationsâ.
Also, what does âAheadâ and âBehindâ really mean?
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Peace and good luck to all.
Zeno of Elea, born c. 495 BCâdied c. 430 BC
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Iâve heard this proverb before: Fools build Houses and Wise Men live in them.
Hippomenes distracting the speedy Atalanta to win the race and also her hand in marriage
Zenoâs answer: NEVER.đ«
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Beyond that how logical would it be for one to pick a number based on the number of trips, the Planet Earth makes around the Sun?
Donât compare, Donât Complain.
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What is it that you folks wants to âCatch upâ here??? Just asking not telling.
Hippomenes won the hand in marriage of Atalanta following a running race by distracting her by tossing âgolden applesâ whenever, he thought, she was gaining on him.
China did that and still does that too. And I canât understand complaints by the US and Russians here.
It is the same situation, when I learn Newtonâs Laws or Calculus. I can freely learn it without breaking much of a sweat. Use some elseâs Gyanodayam for literally free.
Donât constantly engage in below the navel gazing, if you know what I mean and most of all Donât Complain; or at least not so much.
Not true in many other areas of the country. đ
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They, in turn, have eyes only for the Good Ole USA.
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This paradox argues that Viswa Parihasa, a swifter than Dung runner, can never overtake the slower Dung Poo Pew, who has a head start by the way, because by the time Viswa Parihasa reaches the Dung's starting point, Dung will have moved forward, and Viswa must then catch up to that new position, repeating this process⊠ad infinitum.
Now, it is an experience that is just as good or not as good as any Bank Office in the US or China or any where else.
D-Marts etc.
Space race- Technology in general.
There is no shame, if one wants to repeat the technology, that was developed by the pioneers such as Russia and the US. The guide book and protocols are all there to emulate (Copy).
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Afterall, Whatsapp, FB, mobile smart phones, have all helped us interact as well as avoid pesky and nosy neighbors and relatives.
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There is the Greek Philosopher Zenoâs paradox.
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Housing: When I land in Hyderabad and travel through Cyber City, I feel like Iâm in China.
Instead of giving GDP numbers, GDP/Capita and all those Statistics to make you feel good or bad, I decided to answer Nagarajan Sirâs question in the form of a long meandering discourse.
Would that be logical? Yes!
Again, in any urban setting in India, the Malls are an eco-system as good as any experience in China.
Another Eco System, where you donât have to apologize. đđđ
AQI (Air Quality Index) Delhi and Beijing⊠stinks to high heavens. Equivalent to smoking two packs of cigarettes/day even for the non-smoker.
Any Bank in an urban setting, used to be the equivalent of the famous play by Samuel Becket âWaiting for Godotâ, except back then in India, decades ago.
These Airports are an Ecosystem, where Iâm far more âcomfortableâ and have a more âpleasurable experienceâ than at La Guardia Airport or JFK Airport in New York $hitty. (misspelled intentionally).
Look instead at Pockets of Comfort created within your immediate environs.
High rise in China below:
I land at Hyderabad or Bangalore Airports. The airports are spotless, well maintained, orderly and the people follow all the rules, the security is run smoothly like clockwork. The Uber and Taxi System is excellent and smoothly run. So is the Baggage Carousel, Immigration, Customs, etc. etc. WOW!
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Now for some areas of discomfort.
Excellent staff from all over India. Amazing competence and professionalism shown by all from Doctors to Nurses to technicians, even the lift staff. đđđ
And it does not matter, if the technology was invented in Timbuktoo, Africa. Copy Paste, Repeat.
This so-called race is in my opinion, a Phantasm, that only exists in peopleâs mind and I would wager that this Phantasm chiefly exists, it seems in India- which is looking at China with a mixture of envy and jealousy.
Your Corner D-Marts gave me the same âexperienceâ as any that I had in Japan, China or Korea.
Look at each individual Eco-system within your immediate environs, that works in your land, in your local Area and if you are not discomfited, then all is fine. âExperienceâ is the key here.
This begs the question.
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Malls and Cineplexes in the US are dying⊠and descrepit (Thank you Amazon and Netfix) ⊠So experience wise, you folks have it good. đđđ
So no harm for Indians to âcopyâ the technology obtained by sweat and tears and expense of billions of dollars or rubles over decades by the big Two.
What is so magical about 30?
Airports: ECO-SYSTEM.
China is a polity; India is a polity. So far so good.
But is this what we want to emulate? I donât know the answer to that?
Many lost their heads, as they looked behind to see if Atalanta was gaining on them . Hippomenes was given a head start by Atalanta.
So what Iâm suggesting is that rather than constantly comparing and tearing oneâs clothes in agony, employ what the Japanese call âNemawashiâ and Poka Yoke
So, here is my proposition.
How long would it take for âVishwa Parihasa â to catch up with âDung Po Pewâ.
Maybe I should Poka Yoke and Nemawashi my writings as well. đđ
Let us assume that the Polity called âDung Poo Pew â is ahead of the Polity called âVishwa Parihasaâ in some mythical race.
Well for starters, âVishwa Parihasa â must run at a âfasterâ pace than âDung Po Pew â.
Before Desi eyes go somber and tearful, let me explain.
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The model that prompts such a question is based on a âCircus Maximusâ model in which Chariot races were run in ancient Rome, where Individual Nations in this example, are run like Chariots. Some are ahead, while some are behind and we are all spectators here.
What is the experience of an ordinary salaried family to living in this bee-hive?
The other factor is TIME. This is where the paradox comes in.
Another Example from Greek Mythology: Hippomenes and Atalanta race. [This is a warning to my country, the USA, really]
Coming back to Greek Philosophy this time.
That is all that matters really.
I will even wager one of my shares in JD. Com ( a Chinese MNC) that most Chinese are not even bothered to see, if India is âlaggingâ behind them.
Poka Yoke: Make the design of the systems, so that even âvillage idiotsâ (there are many) wonât be able to make things worse in the Eco-system and ruin your experiences.
Give yourself an applause here. đđđ
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And the plummeting birth rate in China and the aversion to marriage in China and even sex, among the young is increasing exponentially, seems to point to that.
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